We're at war
That's what Harvey Keitel replies to Stephen Root's reading of a Fatwa from Bin laden:
The Pretend Richard Clarke:He hust released a fatwa to his followers, a declaration of Jihad against America."If we cut of the head of America the kingdoms in the Arab world will cease to exist. We must incite guerilla warfare against Israeli and American Interests, not only in Arab and Muslim countries but everywhere in the world. There is no room for negotiation unless and until America converts to Islam." What do you think?The Pretend John P. O'Neill:We're at war.
The above scene is posted to youtube by a Kiwi who saw this last nite. There are 9 clips total, posted here. As a courtesy, he offers supers over the video that rebut a few bits and pieces, but it's really a lost cause.
PBS has OBL's 1996 Fatwa Declaration
Here's OBL's feb 23, 98 Jihad Statement
In neither does he say There is no room for negotiation unless and until America converts to Islam.
He does, however, say: stop propping up our feudal systems of royal families or the dictators that you fall in and out of love with. Stop doing that, and get the hell out of our lands. On that, he seems to say there is no negotiation.
Thumbnail synopsis: This is Meth for R-complexes, porn for Anti-Clinton types. And for fundies who get more out of their faith and patriotism when it's "under assault" than by the everyday, humdrum, practice of the thing.
I've seen about 47 minutes worth of clips of this thing--the money shots, if you will. I lost count of the wooden reminders that "We're at war," "Don't they know what war is?", War is not this, it's that; War means never having to say you're sorry, War means get out of my way, War means focus, War means speed, War is etcetera and so on.
We get it already. It's pretty painful to watch 30 or 60 seconds of campaign commercial composed of stiff talking points. But 6 hours? That seems to be what we've got here. The target also seems pretty obvious: "Clear-headed" Americans of Republican or Christian bent who are correct to fear damn dirty liberals and their cowardly ways and their their cowardly laws and their prissy approach to war-fightin and their expert approach to debauchery and moral breakdown. Al Qaeda and their derermination actully come off pretty good. In fact, I'll bet they're quite flattered. They even attribute "balls of steel" to Ramsi Yousef.
The Filmakers don't really question the valor or doctrine of the Muslims from the viewpoint of, say, making them look silly or incompetent. They really are somewhat a-political about it, except when showing Northern Alliance General Al Mashoud as something of a Davy Crockett; brave, straightforward, simple and true. "Are all men in Washington cowards?" Here's where you're supposed to shout "Yesss!*"
(*"Except George and Dick, of course. They 'get' it!")
The movie looks pretty, there is some half-decent camera work and it's scored fairly well. But, as anyone who's been involved in film production will tell you, it's hard to buff a turd. And that's what snazzy production often does: Cover up the lack of an idea or, probably most insidious, make you think you've seen something good; something that hangs together.
Nowrasteh has so much expostion and foreshadowing going on, it's like a primer for 6th Graders--over-explaining the obvious, followed by little wrap-ups of what we'eve just been told, tied together with a punch line designed to elicit gasps: The fabricated bumbling of a "composite" Berger or Albright, framed against a frustrated boyscout-composite of Tenet, FBI or CIA agent/operative who delivers the coup de' grace. The above al Mahsoud "Coward" line is exhibit #42.
We'll see. It starts in a few minutes proper.
More later.

3 Comments:
I noticed the fabricated fatwa too.
ABC's movie "The Path to 9-11" last night was extremely ugly. They lied about what bin Laden's fatwa said. It didn't say, as they portrayed, "There is no room for negotiation, unless, and until, America converts to Islam."
It is clear why the ABC movie lied.
The 1996 fatwa the movie misrepresents actually says things like "It is incredible that our country is the world largest buyer of arms from the USA and the area biggest commercial partners of the Americans who are assisting their Zionist brothers in occupying Palestine and in evicting and killing the Muslims there, by providing arms, men and financial supports."
The fatwa actually lists the same grievances bin Laden and others have mentioned for years as the 1993 letter from the terrorists made crystal clear: "This action was done in response for the American political, economical, and military support to Israel the state of terrorism and to the rest of the dictator countries in the region."
Bin Laden has made the motives clear and until what: "We swore that America wouldn't live in security until we live it truly in Palestine. This showed the reality of America, which puts Israel's interest above its own people's interest. America won't get out of this crisis until it gets out of the Arabian Peninsula, and until it stops its support of Israel."
The US has since pulled the troops out of Saudi Arabia after 9/11.
Please pass this video on to others, many blogs and websites are unwilling to tell the truth: What motivated the 9/11 hijackers?
I had to write this update over at Kos because of confused people:
UPDATE: Due to the many irrational responses I have received, I want to make this point: If I was writing about an example of an ABC lie that covered up something about the Military Industrial Complex and I wrote "ABC lies to serve the Military Industrial Complex's agenda" I don't think I would have gotten these kinds of responses.
Many of those posting comments at Kos have made a mistake and are making fools of themselves. I stand by everything I have written, I can't help it if people ignore what I write and substitute their own ideas. I have written on the Internet for years and have interviewed Noam Chomsky who himself is subjected to this kind of nonsense. Take a deep breath, reread what I have actually written and take some time to sincerely think about it. THINK, why is writing "ABC lies to serve the Military Industrial Complex's agenda" OK but this topic results in an irrational and intellectually dishonest response?
As far as what country's agenda is being served, we know that even the 9/11 Commission played the same game. We know from Hamilton and Kean's new book that there were commissioners who "REJECTED mentioning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the report" because they worried "listing U.S. support for Israel as a root cause of al Qaeda's opposition to the United States indicated that the United States should reassess that policy."
What country's agenda was that serving? Mexico's?
Tom, you're hyperventilating.
Yeah, troops in saudi post Desert Storm was dumb, we had other options. But the only interest we serve is our own, misguided as they may be sometimes.
The movie played fast and loose with lots of stuff. Does that mean they're handmaidens of USAirways because they inferred American Airlines droped the ball with Atta? Nah.
They made this movie to assuage guilt; to create more people who will agree with their pie in the sky view of America's choices. It's intended as a shoulder-rub to affirm to themselves that they're good and true Americans, no matter how stupid their judgement has been shown to be.
If you're looking Israel-bait, you're inthe wrong place, but I will nod to this from October, 2004
...What was [and is still] needed [in the weeks following 9-11] was a highly necessary and, conveniently, highly visible rebuild of US forces to meet the demands of assymmetrical threats--guerillas, insurgency, terrorism, middle east foment. Threats that were not news on September 10th. While commencing your highly visible build-up, you leverage post 9-11 (good)will by firmly planting both feet in the Middle East--one in the Mediterranean, one in the Gulf--and saying:
Enough. Your problem is now our Dead. Time to fix or time to fight–fight us. These are our bombs, planes and tanks; and these, these over here are our bonds, bricklayers and business professors. You choose. We're here to help, but we're done with half measures, and you will fix this. Take what you admire, leave what you don't, keep your autonomy. Think about it. Hard. If you say no, you will not like the alternative.
End the press conference, cue the airlift/sealift, alert pre-positioning. And wait for the phones to ring. And ring they would. And not a soul would have blamed us. Now, that is what Bush should have done. Addressed to the whole Middle East--yes, even the bit with names like Haifa and Tel Aviv.
fouro,
There has been massive fraud on the part of many people in influential positions in order to suppress the motives for 9/11.
Admitting to the troops in Saudi Arabia as one of the motives comes easily while another one of the motives, one just as clearly listed, doesn't get mentioned too easily.
In the few places it even get to be mentioned, the person pointing it out gets insinuations of "anti-Semitism." Stop playing the anti-Semitism card
I suggest you look at the facts, the ABC movie was not the only case in which the motives are omitted or lied about in the service of the Israel agenda.
Thomas Friedman covers up what bin Laden has said for years about Palestine. Friedman claims, "the fact is that bin Laden never focused on this issue. He only started talking about "Palestine" after September 11." What Friedman has written is a flat out lie. To give just one example that disproves what Friedman wrote: "Your position against Muslims in Palestine is despicable and disgraceful. America has no shame. " - Osama bin Laden May 1998
You seem to have a notion that the US government can do no wrong. Fact is, it serves the interests of big business and powerful groups. Look at Enron, we had people willing to subject fellow Americans to blackouts, we had businessmen willing to lie and screw over Americans.
You can't let this notion of "America" obscure the fact that we are really talking about policies that are implemented on behalf of powerful businesses and groups. What they are doing to the people in the Middle East is no more noble than what was done to Americans, in fact it is much worse.
Don't try to play off what ABC did as some inadvertent mistake. I gave you a second very dramatic example which showed the same INTENTIONAL SUPPRESSION of the MAIN MOTIVE for the 9/11 attacks.
Regarding a report that was supposed to serve the interests of the American people, we had 9/11 commissioners more interested in serving special interests, commissioners who "REJECTED mentioning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the report" because they worried "listing U.S. support for Israel as a root cause of al Qaeda's opposition to the United States indicated that the United States should reassess that policy."
US officials have done enough wrong to the Middle East including literally shipping Korans and weapons while encouraging Jihad and also of partnering with Saddam Hussein in war crimes. You are acting like the US officials who make these policies are moral agents, they are not. If you actually look at the evidence you will see that. Doesn't the fact that they would have the audacity to lie to us about why we were attacked give you a clue that something really dirty is going on? You can't leap to the copout of "Israel-bait" to avoid dealing with the ugly realities. Bottom line, if we want to PREVENT terrorism, we make sure our government respects the human rights of the people in the Middle East as we expect our rights to be respected. When the imminent domain decision was made, I noticed that opponents of it were not denounced as "anti-American" or "anti-Semitic". Lets use the same logic and realize that not all polices are produced by angles. given how many Americans are willing to mistreat other Americans, you need to wake from the dream that US officials have been implementing policies that are just and moral. We could actually PREVENT terrorist attacks and also save billions of dollars.
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